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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2008 12:01:00 AM

Assuming equal availability and cost-effectiveness, which technology would you most like to see powering the "car of the future"?
Gasoline
Diesel
Ethanol
Biodiesel
Electricity
Hydrogen
Something else
No opinion

Post your thoughts about this poll below.
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MnSwede
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2009 4:18:05 PM

diesel
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2009 5:40:01 PM

All things being equal? There's no savings (because you're saying equal cost-effectiveness) using anything other than gas? They why change. Unless you're giving me other benefits, it's hard to object to what we know works and is reliable.

Otherwise, wind power would be the most ecologically friendly.
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leveit2clever
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2009 4:36:39 PM

Eventually hydrogen. But for the time being electric.
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ried
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2009 12:25:19 AM

no opinion
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2009 10:58:42 PM

electricity: is ship, easy to get from wind, sun, and water, even can obtain it thru a dynamo. If the technicians can develop the above sources, without the oil owners black hands, it will be the best technology
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2009 10:58:23 PM

I think the immediate solution is battery and gas engine. It will be the quickest to manufacture and cheapest in the long run. I like hydrogen
but it will take years yet to develope. The dual battery and gas gets excellent mileage.
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2009 10:57:55 PM

Now, if only we had a way to make hydrogen at a reasonable price...
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2009 10:57:33 PM

Is it possible to have solar panels on roof of car (with bird droppings easily cleaned off)and battery backup for cloudy/rainy/snowy days? I do not like the plug-in aspect of electric powered autos.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2009 6:24:25 PM

Assuming equal availabiity and cost-effectivness, it doesn't make any difference beyond what you think causes pollutants of the kind that concerns you. That said, all things being equal, why change what is already in place/being used unless the cost of the vehicle using one fuel is significantly different than the cost of a vehicle using a different fuel.

The question is kind of like asking "if spinach, head cheese and horseradish tasted like strawberry cheese cake, which would you choose to eat, spinach, head cheese, or horseradish?"
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dongo50
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2009 7:16:18 AM

lawyers and politicians.
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higginbotham194
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2009 10:35:15 AM

hydrogen
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chemist74
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2009 8:34:18 AM

This requires a huge assumption. Availability and cost effectiveness almost the only factors that will decide the mix of "fuels" that will be available.
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Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2009 10:29:39 PM

Electricity... less issue with Infrastructure for distribution to the American Public... NO BRAINER...

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higginbotham194
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2009 12:11:53 PM

Hydrogen
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gasman14
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2008 10:59:20 PM

Hydrogen
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Blubberpuppy
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2008 12:28:56 PM

Warp drive
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rjr54
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2008 11:13:49 PM

Well, water power is not on the list . . . so I had to pick something that was - electricity. Here in Manitoba we use hydro generated electricity, perhaps the most enviromentally friendly power in the world. It is generated by low head, high flow dams, with "unmeasurably small carbon footprint" <<quoted from the latest environmental assessment>>.

So I want to drive a battery electric car because that is the most efficient way to get the hydro energy into the wheels.
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Davex87
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2008 2:34:48 AM

I've got news for you retards: neither hydrogen nor electricity are energy SOURCES. They are methods of transporting energy. You can make electricity from coal, diesel, natural gas, solar, wind, hydroelectric, nuclear, and I'm sure a few others, but you might notice that you've never seen an electricity well. Same for hydrogen, as it is typically made by either separating water (which requires a bit more energy than you will get when you recombine or "burn" it) or my altering a hydrocarbon fuel (e.g. gasoline, diesel, natural gas). So, of course an electric car or hydrogen fueled is clean. That's because you generated the hydrogen or electricity somewhere else. And then you transported that energy down a wire (loss), and then charged a battery (loss) and then discharged a battery (loss) to drive your car. So, as my high school civics teacher said, There ain't no such thing as a free lunch (TANSTAAFL).

"Electric car = free gas for life." Sheesh. Let's get educated and make GOOD decisions!
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scoop49
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2008 7:22:00 AM

seen an electric/gas giving 100mpg why are they not readily available? Cost - no it is not anymore expensive than other hybrid and they are already inflated in price, the industry has gone crazy for $$$$$
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harpmom
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2008 8:38:27 AM

Electricity, or natural gas, when it really becomes readily available.
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Quazar911
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2008 6:07:55 AM

I'm not too sure but either Electricity or Hydrogen
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cincindie
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2008 5:11:38 AM

Something that is electricity based (e.g., hydrogen fuel cells).
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kitkat1313
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2008 1:28:41 AM

Well, it would be cool if Cars could run, 100% off the Battery... Just turn the key & GO!!! Now, I'm sure this is, highly, unlikely, but it's a nice thought... FREE Gas for LIFE!!!
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gasman14
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2008 10:18:59 PM

Something else
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wwcj
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2008 7:26:08 AM

What about using CNG, until H2 is available, it was not a choice.
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Don1222
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2008 7:16:33 AM

Ultimately Hydrogen. However we need something until hydrogen gets perfected. In the interim, electricity, ethanol, something else.

To stabilize gasoline prices we need competition. Otherwise we need price control. With utilities the government regulates the rates. If we want to keep the government out of it, we need alternative fuels independent of the oil companies.

Lobby congress to actively support alternative energy. The oil companies are lobbying congress to support oil without any regulation. Congress will listen to their constituents. Call, write, or e-mail them. They need to hear from thousands of us daily until they get the message. If they don't listen, vote the incumbents out. Look at the mess this country is in, the incumbents are not doing anything worthwhile anyway. We have nothing to loose.
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dongo50
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2008 6:22:07 AM

don't care.
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harry20080
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2008 2:21:00 AM

Its a very good site.
All can share their views.
Also can give reply to others.
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shane8005
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 7:02:43 PM

most advanced?

yeah. that's the criteria. how about efficient? how about cost-effective? how about simple?
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Kath68144
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 6:38:38 PM

Whatever would not contribute to global warming and would not harm what resources we have. I've heard more about water for fuel, but ya know, our water reserves aren't that great, so why would anyone consider that option?
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julieofhb
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2008 2:32:55 AM

Hydrogen seems like the most advanced alternative.
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Dorkchop
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2008 2:51:38 PM

Anti-gravity
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shiny9104
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2008 2:06:47 AM

These days most of the vehicles are already can run on hydrogen.Recently NASA also using hydrogen to launch Space Shuttles into space. Toy model car that runs on solar power,which is using a reversible fuel cell to store energy in the form of hydrogen and oxygen gas and converted into water to release the solar energy.I guess the land speed for an hydrogen vehicles may be 33.38 km/h.
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shane8005
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2008 9:06:04 PM

you don't think isolating hydrogen takes a lot of electricity? well, it does.

yeah california's intellect is dulled. can anyone say silicon valley? the best electric vehicle comes from there.

funny you are from detroit, because your city seems to be having trouble producing vehicles that are up with the times. 33 mpg impressive? i laugh at detroit.
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CandyNBob
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2008 8:55:51 PM

Which ever is more cost efficient and green!
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fred64
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2008 3:47:59 PM

Hydrogen is the best way to go. Electricity off the grid, simply increases demand (and pollution) from our already antique power plants. Anyone that thinks wind or solar can make up that demand, must be from California, or a similar place with wacko weed to dull the intellect.
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83bj60
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2008 1:56:51 PM

For the long term, definitely electric, be it battery (stored from the grid) or fuel-cell operated. It's 90% efficient and, combined with solar/hydrolectric and nuclear power, a much cheaper way to produce energy than burning fossil fuel.

Now for the immediate future considering the presently available energy sources, there is unfortunately no other solution than to improve on what we already have and reduce losses, therefore the only solution with internal combustion engines is Diesel/Electric. No wonder Diesel costs so much more now, every other country in the world except America knows a Diesel engine is more efficient (30% more thermally efficient energy conversion per unit energy input) than its Gasoline counterpart. And this could be even more if greater compression was allowed or when better catalytic converters become available (increasing compression increases engine efficiency but it also produces more NOx, which can be a problem in urban areas as it causes smog).
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2008 12:22:41 PM

Diesel
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nyuknyuk49
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2008 6:46:20 AM

hydrogen
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Don1222
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2008 6:45:50 AM

If the Congress was not 'in bed with the oil companies' they could develope a hydrogen fuel system in the next 4 years that would be the beginning of the end of the oil companies.
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2008 10:28:44 PM

electricity: is ship, easy to get from wind, sun, and water, even can obtain it thru a dynamo. If the technicians can develop the above sources, without the oil owners black hands, it will be the best technology
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2008 10:27:55 PM

I think the immediate solution is battery and gas engine. It will be the quickest to manufacture and cheapest in the long run. I like hydrogen
but it will take years yet to develope. The dual battery and gas gets excellent mileage.
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2008 10:26:20 PM

Now, if only we had a way to make hydrogen at a reasonable price...
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2008 10:25:38 PM

Is it possible to have solar panels on roof of car (with bird droppings easily cleaned off)and battery backup for cloudy/rainy/snowy days? I do not like the plug-in aspect of electric powered autos.
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YB1234
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2008 10:24:58 PM

Electricity is available more easily.
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shane8005
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2008 11:17:07 PM

yeah, because this isn't exactly rocket science haha.

that saddest thing is the technology is all there right now. has been. what are we waiting for? are we playing the lets see how long we can rely on foreign oil and see what happens game?
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Don1222
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2008 7:04:32 AM

Shane8005: You are correct, not nearly fast enough. If we could get the government on it as it was with "putting a man on the moon" things would happen much faster.
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shane8005
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2008 7:38:31 PM

but not nearly fast enough. some of our power comes from hydroelectric, which doesn't pollute. that is only a small portion. a much tinier portion comes from wind or solar. everything else pollutes.
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Bill313
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2008 7:34:22 PM

I would really like to see some kind of solar powered car. I know that some people are working on the idea, but I have a feeling they are not employed by the fuel industry
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Don1222
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2008 6:43:44 PM

shane8005: That depends on the power plant generating the electricity. They are improving.
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